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A Wondering Mind by Lisa Greer's avatar

I have said often over the last couple of years that there were plenty of people sitting in church pews back then, including our grandparents who thought a lot of what they were hearing or had experienced in terms of bad theology in the church was a load of crap; they just didn't tell everybody they thought that. Privacy was just something people actually had back then which is another part of the whole Internet thing you were talking about; by extension they were smarter about knowing that you can still be in a community and not agree with everything everyone else thinks. I know that's true based on some of the family secrets I have uncovered from that era via genealogy.

So, yeah, there definitely was a time where people could have their own opinions and not feel like that meant they had to leave a church or tell everybody about it. Enjoyed this essay!

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I want to say "yes, and" to this.

I really like the argument about narratives shaping us.

However, I think there's an additional, key piece of the picture.

Technology also gave us access to more information and more experts.

People seek out information, and help, online, and they find it.

Now if we have a question, we can go to YouTube and find people with real academic credentials who can speak to our concerns.

When I was younger, I went to Summit Ministries Worldview Camp, endorsed by Dobson!

Later, I went to L'Abri Fellowship in the UK for a full term, and returned the next year, and attended L'Abri conferences in the U.S.

I've also attended C.S. Lewis Foundation weekends, etc. etc.

I appreciated the explanatory power that these organizations could give to the Christian worldview.

The explanatory power of their argument (not perfectly univocal, but certainly running with the same grain) helped make sense of things when my strict, sheltered, genuinely fundamentalist upbringing was giving me, as I reflected, more and more reasons NOT to believe in the Christian faith.

Fast-forward a couple of decades, I found that Dr. John Vervaeke's 50-lecture YouTube series Awakening from the Meaning Crisis series also had enormous explanatory power about matters related to life, belief, and meaning from a different perspective than the Christian worldview.

I also found that Bernardo Kastrup' videos and arguments for analytical idealism had strong explanatory power from yet another distinctively different perspective, not Vervaeke's, not anything a U.S. evangelical or fundamentalist would call a Christian worldview.

And of course, the Closer To Truth YouTube channel has interviews with all kinds of scientists, psychologists, philosophers, and theologians.

A kid like me who went to neo-pentecostal churches while attending Independent Missionary Baptist schools can get some interesting and diverse answers!

Additionally, on a more popular level, deconstructors both with and without advanced academic degrees offer perspectives and arguments across social media.

This is a substantially different world than our grandparents' in terms of the availability of relevant information.

We have access now to information and arguments and perspectives that were in no way available before, regardless of the shift in narrative formation.

(Of course, we also should ask the hard question of to-what-extent these stories on the big screen and the little screens really influence belief and behavior. That's a nuanced, tricky issue to pick apart.)

We should say this shift is good -- you don't always want the local pastor having complete control over your mind.

Certainly many influential ministers and evangelical social-media influencers are not seminary-educated.

Secondly, and much more briefly, hasn't "church" changed?

We have more kinds of churches, and many churches imitate our entertainment culture.

There's always been a transactional how-many-did-we-save-at-the-revival mentality in American Bible-believing culture, and megachurches jack up that idea with the kinds of steroids that every professional sport bans!

So no surprise that in the 1990s, people bailed on evangelical and charismatic churches and for season trended toward Eastern Orthodoxy.

This way too long -- thanks if you made it to the end. But I think about this a lot, too much.

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